September 9, 2021 at 11:35 am #8187
I have been a very happy daily user of f-stop for many years, however since a few weeks I encounter a really strange issue on one of my devices.
After editing my holiday photos with tags the folder these images are stored in no longer show any photos. Sometimes this happens after editing 10 photos, sometimes after just one edit. Only when editing tags in another folder (which then shows no images) do the images show up again. I have tried many things from clearing cache to changing settings like not to save changes immediately, but nothing helps. This is on a tablet running Android 7. My mobile device does not have this issue.
As I have 46.000+ images on this device so rebuilding thumbnails takes quite a while… I has always worked well and has always supported my workflow this way.
Any suggestions?! I cannot remember if this happened since one of the recent updates.
September 9, 2021 at 12:17 pm #8189
Under “Settings//Main//Included folders” do you see “Scanning type”? If you do, which option is selected? Does changing to other option makes any difference?
Also, do I understand correctly, that even if you do not really save metadata, it will still not show folder?
Even if you change just one image in a folder with ten images, it won’t show any images? Is the folder visible in the list of folder so you can tap on it (and not show any images), or is the folder itself missing?
September 9, 2021 at 2:32 pm #8192
I was set to ‘custom scanning’. Is this a new setting?
I have set it to ‘media store’, but in changing that setting all is rebuild. Which with 46000+ photo’s takes more than a day. And I still had the same issue.
When having it set to not autosave, I believe images disappeared after saving. However now trying to reproduce to be exact in my answer I do not see this behaviour. Scanning type is set to ‘custom scanning’ now.
The folder does show, but with 0 images and folder thumbnail becomes blank.
Thanks for the quick response!
September 9, 2021 at 2:44 pm #8193
Now I was able to reproduce.
– autosave is off
– tagged 2 images and just confirmed by selecting the ‘check’ icon. So did not save metadata yet.
– folder is now shown empty
September 9, 2021 at 3:11 pm #8194
And to be clear; it does not happen all the time. Sometimes each edit, sometimes it works smoothly for 10 edits in a row.
September 10, 2021 at 4:20 am #8196
I’d say it has something to do with number of images, though it’s hard to say. I know that rescanning 46000+ images is slow and tedious, but as I can not reproduce the issue, this will be hard to solve. I suggest maybe you could try downgrade couple of versions to find where the issue started. Also, it would be beneficial to know whether this also happens when you have only 4000-5000 images in database.
Maybe you should contact me by email, so I can send you previous versions.
October 3, 2021 at 4:11 am #8205
Hello, an update for my side regarding this issue. It was driving me mad, I have tried everything I could think of but nothing worked. I have now gone back to v5.3.24 and disabled auto-update of the app. I have not encountered the issue so far, although may be it’s too early to conclude it certainly looks like it is related to a change in v5.3.27.
Hope this helps you to identify what it could be and provide a fix in a next version. If there’s any more info I can provide to help please let me know.
October 8, 2021 at 7:16 am #8219gorannagyModerator
In that version we added possibility to use “Media Store scanning”. Maybe that was enabled for you?
If you are willing to try, you can maybe test whether changing scanning type under “Settings//Main//Included folders” makes any difference. For me it didn’t.
October 8, 2021 at 7:23 am #8220
Initially this was not set to media store scanning, but did encounter this issue. I have tried testing with it but my photo folders are not in a location accessible for this android version. So I would then not have access and could not test.
I have done a lot of tagging now back on version v5.3.24 and this is running smooth!
October 8, 2021 at 7:38 am #8221
Which folder was it? As it seems it was not an ordinary folder (normal folders are usually accessible in all Android versions), maybe that can give me some clue.
October 8, 2021 at 2:28 pm #8224
I use DSCloud to sync my photos with my Synology Diskstation. This (on older android versions) has to be stored in /android/data/com.synology.dscloud. The standard media scan does not have access to that.
December 7, 2021 at 3:13 am #8261
Hello we exchange by email month ago about the exact same problem. And I have also the same configuration as my folder (called lgg4) is a ds cloud folder (Synology application). It was working since years without problem. But recently this year all subfolder of lgg4 folder display no more photo in f-stop.
(But photo are still there).
Particularity of this lgg4 folder is that it is located in sdcard in android/data/com.synology.dscloud/ folder and there is a .nomedia file in android/data folder.
Lgg4 is manually added and display photo. But before new version of f-stop, subfolder were also included.
If I add manually a subfolder in f-stop the content is displayed. But I can’t add manually more than 50 folders !
I played month ago with media scanning option and it resolve my problem but now it no more works.
Do you have a workaround to resolve my problem ? Ps : I sent you email this week about my problem
December 7, 2021 at 4:25 am #8262
Hello iostrym, unfortunately it has been silent for some time now. What I did is download the v5.3.24 apk file (from a reliable source) and disable auto-update of the app. This version does not have this problem.
Really hope support is picked up again. Actually hoping for some nice new features as I still fully believe in F-Stop. I have moved on to a new tablet and use it even more now. In fact one of the reasons to buy an android tablet versus an apple one is the very existance of F-Stop! In my research I was unable to find anything close to F-Stop on iOs.
December 7, 2021 at 9:23 am #8263
Thanks, could you please provide me a link to download this apk ?
It is great to find someone who use f-stop + ds cloud.
I don’t find any other solution to have a real bidir sync between my Synology nas and my phone. I can tag photo from the nas, from picasa (linked to nas) and from f-stop and everything is shared.
New DSM 7.x kill ds cloud and there is no other way to do this. I don’t understand how other people deal with their photo.
December 7, 2021 at 11:34 am #8264
Not sure if they appreciate me sharing a link, but apkmirror.com is what I believe to be a reliable storage and has a great search function.
I run ACDSee on pc to manage photos that are stored on or are synced to my diskstation. However I hardly fire up my laptop anymore and do most using f-stop.
I have an older diskstation, but I believe new DSM supports Syncthing that can replace DS Sync well.
December 8, 2021 at 1:33 pm #8269
Thanks for your answer. Me also, tagging is mostly done using f-stop and I’m quite never in front of my computer. Do you have a solution for face tagging ? I did it massively one time to time using picasa. It is compatible with photostation. But I don’t have a tool to read face tag on Android. (Except ds photo but research is weak, not possible to do a logical & in search…)
December 8, 2021 at 1:36 pm #8270
I had also an answer from dev that I don’t completely understand saying that dealing with hidden folder will be more complex because of new google policy from November. On brief, he may know how to correct the problem but he is not allowed to do by google. Or something like this…
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